Another Woman Denounces Her Role In Epstein Abuse

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(CNN) – Carolyn said she was just 14 when she started going to Jeffrey Epstein’s house in Palm Beach, Florida, two or three times a week in the early 2000s.


On one of the visits, Carolyn was setting up a massage parlor for Epstein when his longtime partner, Ghislaine Maxwell, entered the room. Maxwell touched Carolyn’s breasts, hips and butt and commented that “she had a great body for Epstein and his friends,” according to Carolyn.

Every time she visited, they would leave her $ 300 in cash on the bathroom sink, she said, but it wasn’t free.

“Every time something sexual happened,” Carolyn said.

Now in her 30s, Carolyn described her teenage experiences with Epstein this Tuesday in Maxwell’s federal trial on charges that include the sex trafficking of minors.

She is the third woman to testify that she was sexually abused by Epstein and to point out that Maxwell was involved. A woman identified as “Kate” testified Monday that Maxwell arranged such sexual encounters, and a woman identified as “Jane” said last week that Maxwell sometimes joined in sexualized massages.

The trial, which began last week, has alternated between disturbing testimony from sexual abuse victims and illuminating testimony about some of Epstein’s connections to high-profile figures like Donald Trump, Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew.

None of them have allegedly committed unlawful acts in connection with the ongoing trial.

Epstein, who pleaded guilty in 2008 to state prostitution charges, was indicted on federal sex trafficking charges in July 2019, but committed suicide in prison a month later. Maxwell, his confidante and ex-girlfriend, was arrested a year later and has pleaded not guilty.

In opening statements at his trial, prosecutors said Maxwell and Epstein created a “pyramid scheme of abuse” to entice underage girls to have sex with Epstein and pay them bonuses to bring in other girls. Her defense, for its part, said that she was a “scapegoat” for Epstein’s actions and attacked the memories and motivations of women who say they have suffered sexual abuse.

The trial is being held in a federal court in Manhattan, which prohibits the use of cameras.

Carolyn says she visited Epstein more than 100 times

In this sketch, Ghislaine Maxwell, seated left, speaks with her defense attorney on Monday, December 6. Credit: Elizabeth Williams via AP

Carolyn testified that she was introduced to Epstein through Virginia Roberts, whose boyfriend knew Carolyn’s boyfriend.

Roberts, who also goes by the name Virginia Roberts Giuffre, previously told the BBC in 2019 that she was trafficked by Epstein and forced to have sex with her friends, including the Duke of York, when she was a minor.

Giuffre recently filed a civil lawsuit against Prince Andrew in which he claims that he sexually abused her at both the invitation of Epstein and Maxwell when she was a minor and that the cases of alleged sexual abuse occurred at Maxwell’s home in London, in Epstein’s house in Manhattan and Epstein’s house in the US Virgin Islands. Prince Andrew has vigorously denied all the accusations against him.

Roberts’s attorney, David Boies, declined to comment, saying the government advised him not to comment publicly during the trial.

Carolyn testified that Roberts told her she could earn money by going to see “her friend” and drove her to Epstein’s home in Palm Beach the first time she met him.

She stated that Roberts dressed her provocatively for the encounter. Roberts led her through the kitchen of the house, introduced her to Maxwell, and then led her upstairs to Epstein’s bathroom, where Roberts set up the room.

Carolyn, 14 at the time, testified that she sat in a bra and underwear on an “ugly” couch and watched Roberts have sex with Epstein on a massage table in the bathroom. Afterward, they left three $ 100 bills for Carolyn in the bathroom sink.

Carolyn said she came home two or three times a week for years, more than a hundred times in all.

The woman said she remembered bringing three different friends her own age over the years. On those occasions, she would receive $ 600 in cash as an incentive for bringing them in, and her friends would receive $ 300.

Carolyn described various sexual encounters with Epstein. She also said Maxwell saw her stark naked in the massage parlor “probably three times” over the years.

He testified that Epstein brought two male friends to the massage parlor on different occasions, but did not elaborate and was not asked any other questions about them. Other times older women joined.

On one visit, Epstein pressed a button on the living room phone and a naked woman walked in and joined in the sexual acts, he said.

On another visit, another woman entered the room. There, Epstein penetrated Carolyn’s vagina but stopped when she said she was uncomfortable, and the other woman performed oral sex on Carolyn, she testified. And on another occasion, Epstein stopped when she asked him to stop using a sex toy in her vagina, he testified.

Maxwell and Epstein separately invited her to go to an island, but she told them she was too young and her mother wouldn’t let her travel outside the country, she said. He also did not have a passport.

Carolyn called Ghislaine Maxwell simply “Maxwell” because she couldn’t pronounce her first name correctly, she said. During his testimony he constantly referred to Epstein as “Mister Epstein.”

Witness says she used the money on drugs

Maxwell or another Epstein associate would call her to arrange a “date” time, Carolyn declared. Other times she called asking if she could come to her house because she wanted the money, she said. Carolyn testified that Maxwell and the associate called her at her mother’s or boyfriend’s phone numbers if they couldn’t reach her.

In a shaky voice, he declared that he used the money to buy drugs.

“Marijuana, cocaine, alcohol, anything that could block me from going to the appointment,” he said.

She continued sexual massage encounters with Epstein until she was 18, she said. She took a break from going to Epstein for a time when she was pregnant at 16, but came back after giving birth because she needed the money to support her child, she said.

When she returned to Epstein’s house, he asked her if she had younger friends.

“It was then that I realized I was too old,” he testified.

Defense attorney Jeffrey Pagliuca questioned Carolyn for more than two hours on Tuesday and spent considerable time suggesting that Carolyn made inconsistent statements specifically about her timeline at different times, including an FBI meeting in 2007 and in a 2009 statement by lawsuits he filed against Epstein.

It was revealed that he received nearly $ 450,000 as a result of the settlements.

During a 2009 statement, she testified that Maxwell and an associate of Epstein would call her to set up appointments with him, according to an excerpt from the transcript of the statement that reads from the registry.

Carolyn said in direct questioning that she is currently taking several medications, including an opioid blocker for her addiction history and medications related to schizophrenia. Sometimes he hears voices telling him that someone is going to kidnap his daughters, he said, but he can identify the voices as something that is not part of reality.

Carolyn also acknowledged past crimes that she pleaded guilty to, including the felony of possession of cocaine and the felony of possession of stolen property.



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