Santiago de Chile, Jan. 25 (EFE) .- Police containment of social protests in countries such as Chile, Colombia or Ecuador has resulted in a "systematic" and "cruel" violation of human rights, he said in an interview with Efe in Santiago from Chile, the former Spanish Baltasar Garzón, who advocated denouncing these facts and demanding independence from justice to act.
Garzón, very popular in Chile for ordering the arrest of the dictator Augusto Pinochet in 1998, said he was in favor of the justice action being taken at the local level in each country but without that "being the excuse for doing nothing," because if so, the Inter-American Human Rights System and universal jurisdiction must come into play.RELATED
The former National Court of Spain, who participated in Chile in the first edition of the Latin American Forum on Human Rights, also underlined the "historic" and "turbulent" moment in Latin America today, with political changes and social mobilizations, and pointed out the inequality as one of the main causes of citizen unrest that triggered the protests.
In addition, he warned of the seriousness of using justice to solve political problems, in relation to the doubts generated by the revelations of The Intercept Brasil portal on the impartiality of the current Brazilian Minister of Justice, Sergio Moro, when he was the main judge of the Lava Jato, especially in the processes that concluded with the conviction and imprisonment of former President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva.
The "coup d'etat", according to his words, that brought Evo Morales out of the presidency of Bolivia or, in his opinion, "absurd duality" of representativeness that has generated in Venezuela that the president of the National Assembly, Juan Guaidó, interim president self-proclaimed, were also issues addressed by Garzón in the interview.
SOCIAL PROTESTS AND HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS
Question (P). Are human rights being violated in the containment of social mobilizations in Latin America?
Answer (R). Human rights are being violently and systematically violated. What we are seeing is a reaction of the bodies and security forces of the State in different countries, such as Chile, Colombia, Bolivia or Ecuador, where social protests end with shots, with persecutions, with jail, with aggressions and with concealment of own actions.
P. In the specific case of Chile, it seems that he is received with the intention of intervening, as he did with Pinochet, in the alleged cases of human rights violations that are occurring.
A. I have always been in favor of the fact that where one has to act with respect to the law and the action of justice must always be in the respective countries, especially in the criminal field, but there is no doubt also that It cannot be the excuse for doing nothing and that is where universal jurisdiction comes in. But what must be demanded is that this justice be done here, with transparency and demanding independent investigation.
Q. How do you interpret the social mobilizations that are taking place in Latin America?
A. It is a historic, unique moment, many years, decades ago, that Latin America was not experiencing a moment of so much convulsion or so much social, political, legal change, as we are seeing. And not everything for good, in many cases it is for bad: we have seen the coup in Bolivia and we are seeing countries where legal war, lawfare, is used as a political weapon.
Q. Is inequality the trigger for all protests?
A. The problem of inequality in Latin America, in the world in general, is a constant. We are currently in Chile, Chile is one of the most unequal countries. This is where the neoliberal model emerges and hopefully where it ends.
The concentration of power, of wealth, in some elites has not translated into a greater and better possibility of life for the rest of the citizenship, that is fundamental because it underlies everything that is happening. The society, the people, when it is punished too much it explodes and from there there is no turning back.
INSTRUMENTALIZATION OF JUSTICE
Q. In light of the revelations of The Intercept Brasil portal on Lava Jato, have you lost the independence of justice?
R. What has been seen is that there has been an underground trial between the Prosecutor's Office and between the investigations of Judge Moro that leave in doubt and very bad stop to justice at the time of acting, therefore the doubt of impartiality and lawfare It is very clear. It is very serious to use justice to solve political problems.
Q. What happened in Bolivia?
A. The case of Evo Morales is paradigmatic, overnight he cannot become a terrorist, it seems daunting that he is accused of terrorism to justify a political persecution. I believe that Evo Morales made an act of responsibility because it was seen that a coup d'etat was being cooked and there was an obvious risk of citizen confrontation if he had not acted with that responsibility. We cannot legally justify a coup, it is a political persecution.
THE INTERIM PRESIDENCY OF GUAIDÓ
Q. A year after the emergence of the figure of Guaidó in Venezuela, how do you see this phenomenon?
A. I was never in favor nor am I in favor of Guaidó's position. Like it or not, there is a president in Venezuela who is certainly not Guaidó. What is happening with the recognition of Guaidó by a number of countries is that the situation in Venezuela is not solved in any of the possible ways. It is absurd to maintain that duality that at the same time justifies a series of measures of economic, social and political coercion by the United States. You can not live this kind of creep. EFE
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